torlin案例分析：51签f1被拒

torlin案例分析：51签f1被拒

http://www.gter.net 2003-5-17 22:17:46 BBS 水木清华站作者:torlin

comfort you, and cheers , never give up. But I think I can give you some
hints about your visa app process because It remains several flaws here.
这里说并不是说大家真的没有机会，机会对待上海，北京大多数情况下是平等的，只是北京
方面内部受政策影响，暂时未开始大量的申请。所以AdvancedEdu的兄弟们也不用急着去，
不要急着预约。

上海的形势好是因为上海与领事馆的关系一直很好，所以主观上有优势，客观上的优势就是
上海区申请F1的人数比北京区的要少。不过结果证明，北京每年出去的同学还是超过一大半
的。

: 下面是我的签正实录：
: ME:good morning
: VO: How are you?
: Me: fine, thank you . do you need the card?
: Vo: yes. thank you. so did you get your master degree?
: Me: yes,i got it last year.
: Vo: what did you do?
: Me: i worked in XXX　for half a year. Then I quit this job since I knew I
was going to get offer.
从一开始你就不对了，你拿到offer就要去美国了吗？多说一句话，或者换一句话说你这半年
在好好的研究某个方面的内容。 quit这种词是很有主观动性的。
: Vo: but what if you cannot get visa?
: Me: I will apply to a PHD program in China, in TSinghua University. I
just wan t to study.（大意如此）
还没有拿到offer就quit job,就没有做过仔细的打算，作多手的准备，因此 VO很直觉的问
了你这点，很清楚，VO已经不欣赏你的举动了。即便是个正常的中国人也会对你拿到offer
就quit的动机产生怀疑的。
: VO: how many schools do you apply to?
: Me: 7. 4 give me admissions and 2 give me financial aid.
: Vo:your toefl and gre.
: Me: here you are.
很典型的一段，分析你是否是一个自信的人，或者说是一个qualified的申请者。很好，这
点上你基本上说明了。可是还是没有说明你学习的目的的明确性，因此VO转向这点，希望能
够得到确信。

: Vo:(看了一眼,递出来)do you have any emails with your future advisor?
: Me: I don't have advisor now. it will be decided in the second year after
I join this program. 你的回答很让人失望，sorry.
: VO: so do you have any interested area to study?
: Me: XXXX. this program has several professors who did good work in this
field, I would like to work with them. 还是很失望，也许还是没有发现你真的喜欢
这个，你要是能够说出某一个教授的名字，那就要号很多阿

: VO:what's your plan after graduation?
: Me:I would like to find a position in Tsinghua because I want to be a
professor and an economist.
你前面没有一点能够有任何的hint说明你want to be,
: VO: (翻看表格)
: ME: i have been in tsinghua for 6 years and know the professors here very
well ......
如果没有什么意外，看的就是你的ds表格了，上面有些什么信息或许你说出来可能会更好一
些。

因此排除主观因素的话，从头到尾你没有任何一处出采的地方，推荐你看看我写的
TorlinBible里面几个解释的案例。希望对你下次申请有帮助。

: VO: (迅速盖章)，sorry, i cannot issue your visa.
: me:would you please give me the reason?
: VO: i cannot believe you will be back. sorry.(很真诚的样子).
: Me: thank you anyway.
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